Topic :: New Hampshire Towns Rejecting Reconsideration of Marriage Equality
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New Hampshire Towns Rejecting Reconsideration of Marriage Equality
PolishBear, Feb 2, 2010Why should law-abiding, taxpaying Gay Americans be forced to subsidize all the legal benefits and responsibilities that Straight couples enjoy, when we are unable to take advantage of those same incentives to marry? And since when do voters get to decide that the rights that apply to them DO NOT apply to minorities? Religious beliefs are irrelevant, because (1) the United States is not theocracy, and (2) churches will continue to be free to conduct or deny ceremonies to whomever they want. Procreation and parenting are irrelevant, since couples do not have to marry to have children, and the ability or even desire to have children is not a prerequisite for getting a marriage license. This is simply a matter of equal treatment under the law.
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New Hampshire Towns Rejecting Reconsideration of Marriage Equality
Anonymous, Feb 2, 2010The religious groups need to find another cause to help fill their coffers... How about taking all that holier-than-thou energy and perhaps put it to a REAL cause? There are enough people actually SUFFERING in this world... But, TRUE GOOD WORK don't acquire enough publicity, do it? It makes me ashamed, really...
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New Hampshire Towns Rejecting Reconsideration of Marriage Equality
Anonymous, Feb 2, 2010Funny: How so many "gay" or "enlightened" people think that one has to be a freak or a religious nut job to want the right to vote on this issue.
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New Hampshire Towns Rejecting Reconsideration of Marriage Equality
Anonymous, Feb 2, 2010It is shameful that anyone would not want the right to vote on any issue placed before us. After all - that is what we have fought many wars over - the right two vote!
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New Hampshire Towns Rejecting Reconsideration of Marriage Equality
Anonymous, Feb 2, 2010The towns are NOT rejecting the motion. A handful of people are. NH towns are not being ALLOWED to VOTE on the ISSUE; and in most cases the majority of the population has no idea that the marriage petition is something that they can or could have voted on since in some towns it is being sensored out of exsistance! I guess some people trust their populations to vote on a town transfer station according to their "moral & social compuss" but not that of a truly equitable issue. HOW SAD!!!!!
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New Hampshire Towns Rejecting Reconsideration of Marriage Equality
Stephen Weiss, Feb 2, 2010You had the right to vote on the issue. You did it when you elected your representatives. That is how a representative democracy works. If you really think you want "direct democracy", which is what referendums are, James Madison said of them: "A pure democracy can admit no cure for the mischiefs of faction. A common passion or interest will be felt by a majority, and there is nothing to check the inducements to sacrifice the weaker party. Hence it is, that democracies have ever been found incompatible with personal security or the rights of property; and have, in general, been as short in their lives as they have been violent in their deaths." Sounds great, right?
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New Hampshire Towns Rejecting Reconsideration of Marriage Equality
Stephen Weiss, Feb 2, 2010You had the right to vote on the issue. You did it when you elected your representatives. That is how a representative democracy works. If you really think you want "direct democracy", which is what referendums are, James Madison said of them: "A pure democracy can admit no cure for the mischiefs of faction. A common passion or interest will be felt by a majority, and there is nothing to check the inducements to sacrifice the weaker party. Hence it is, that democracies have ever been found incompatible with personal security or the rights of property; and have, in general, been as short in their lives as they have been violent in their deaths." Sounds great, right?
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New Hampshire Towns Rejecting Reconsideration of Marriage Equality
Anonymous, Feb 2, 2010The National Library of Medicine pubs confirm that sexual orientation is natural, biologically induced in the first trimester of pregnancy, morally neutral, immutable, neither contagious nor learned, bearing no relation to an individual's ability to form deep and lasting relationships, to parent children, to work or to contribute to society. From the American Psychological Asociation: homosexuality is normal; homosexual relationships are normal. The American Academy of Pediatrics, American Psychological Asociation and American Psychiatric Asociation have endorsed civil marriage for same-sex couples because marriage strengthens mental and physical health and longevity of couples, and provides greater legal and financial security for children, parents and seniors. America's premier child/mental health associations endorse marriage equality. There is no further reason to discriminate, except ignorance or bigotry. Think of what you would want for yourself or your your family.
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New Hampshire Towns Rejecting Reconsideration of Marriage Equality
Anonymous, Feb 2, 2010The National Library of Medicine pubs confirm that sexual orientation is natural, biologically induced in the first trimester of pregnancy, morally neutral, immutable, neither contagious nor learned, bearing no relation to an individual's ability to form deep and lasting relationships, to parent children, to work or to contribute to society. From the American Psychological Asociation: homosexuality is normal; homosexual relationships are normal. The American Academy of Pediatrics, American Psychological Asociation and American Psychiatric Asociation have endorsed civil marriage for same-sex couples because marriage strengthens mental and physical health and longevity of couples, and provides greater legal and financial security for children, parents and seniors. America's premier child/mental health associations endorse marriage equality. There is no further reason to discriminate, except ignorance or bigotry. Think of what you would want for yourself or your your family.
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New Hampshire Towns Rejecting Reconsideration of Marriage Equality
Anonymous, Feb 2, 2010Sexual orientation is similar to left-handedness: biological, unchangeable, innocent. We used to think left-handed was evil (Latin for left is "sinister"), and force lefties to use only their right hand, even though they never really changed. Research reveals variable hormonal levels in pregnancy permanently affect a child's neural circuitry for sexual orientation and gender identity: a little more testosterone in fetal girls' brains from an adrenal condition can cause <50% to be lesbian, 10% to be transgender. Sharing the womb with a boy co-twin (amniotic fluid has some of his testosterone) causes <15% of girl co-twins to be lesbian. These girls also have the bone structure and physical coordination of boys, so they are good in sports. Less testosterone for boys' brains from mother's blocking antibody from having many older brothers causes <15% of boys to be gay. These boys can have the physiology/verbal skills like girls, and excel in language and visual arts. All innocent. Let them marry.
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New Hampshire Towns Rejecting Reconsideration of Marriage Equality
Anonymous, Feb 3, 2010To those of you using the Bible as a weapon against homosexuality, you are wrong. Homosexuality is not a sin. The Bible is constantly being taken out of context to support anti-gay views. Any educated Christian would know that. Scholars who have studied the Bible in context of the times and in relation to other passages have shown those passages (Leviticus, Corinthians, Romans, etc) have nothing to do with homosexuality. These passages often cherry-picked while ignoring the rest of the Bible. The sins theses passages are referring to are idolatry, Greek temple sex worship, prostitution, pederasty with teen boys, and rape, not homosexuality or two loving consenting adults. http://www.soulfoodministry.org/docs/English/NotASin.htm http://www.jesus21.com/content/sex/bible_homosexuality_print.html http://www.christchapel.com/romans_inter.html http://www.stjohnsmcc.org/new/BibleAbuse/BiblicalReferences.php http://www.gaychristian101.com/ Thats why Jesus never mentions it as well. There is nothing immoral, wrong, or sinful about being gay. Jesus, however, clearly states he HATES hypocrites. If you preach goodness, then promote hate and twist the words of the Bible, you are a hypocrite, and will be judged and sent to hell. Homosexuals will not go to hell, hypocrites will.
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New Hampshire Towns Rejecting Reconsideration of Marriage Equality
Anonymous, Feb 3, 2010For those of you claiming homosexuality is a "lifestyle", that is a false and ignorant statement. Homosexuality is not a choice. Just like you don't choose the color of your skin, you cannot choose whom you are sexually attracted to. If you can, sorry, but you are not heterosexual, you are bi-sexual. Virtually all major psychological and medical experts agree that sexual orientation is NOT a choice. Most gay people will tell you its not a choice. Common sense will tell you its not a choice. While science is relatively new to studying homosexuality, studies tend to indicate that its biological. http://www-news.uchicago.edu/releases/03/differential-brain-activation.pdf http://www.newscientist.com/channel/sex/dn14146-gay-brains-structured-like-those-of-the-opposite-sex.html Gay, Straight Men's Brain Responses Differ http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,155990,00.html http://www.livescience.com/health/060224_gay_genes.html http://www.springerlink.com/content/w27453600k586276/ http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2008/06/16/172/ There is overwhelming scientific evidence that homosexuality is not a choice. Sexual orientation is generally a biological trait that is determined pre-natally, although there is no one certain thing that explains all of the cases. "Nurture" may have some effect, but for the most part it is biological.
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New Hampshire Towns Rejecting Reconsideration of Marriage Equality
K2T, Feb 3, 2010With one out of every two marriages ending in divorce, the 50/50 success rate of marriage is pathetic. Why not petition to ban heterosexual marriage and divorce?
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New Hampshire Towns Rejecting Reconsideration of Marriage Equality
K2T, Feb 3, 2010With one out of every two marriages ending in divorce, the 50/50 success rate of marriage is pathetic. Why not petition to ban heterosexual marriage and divorce?
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New Hampshire Towns Rejecting Reconsideration of Marriage Equality
Anonymous, Feb 4, 2010There is no question that Homosexuality is an imbalance of hormones but why wouldn't we be giving a person with a male body male hormones and a person with a female body female hormones. It just seems that would make their lives less complicated. AS for the people quoting the bible maybe they should read Romans 1:27, Genesis 1:27, Genesis 2:18-25, Matthew 19:4 and Mark 10:6. They seem to explain things clearly.
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New Hampshire Towns Rejecting Reconsideration of Marriage Equality
Anonymous, Feb 4, 2010THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH BEING BORN THIS WAY BUT THE BIBLE ALSO SAYS THAT MARRIAGE IS BETWEEN A MAN AND A WOMAN. GOD DID NOT CREATE TWO MEN AND TWO WOMAN AND TELL THEM TO GO FORTH AND MULTIPLY. IT WOULD BE AN IMPOSSIBILITY. EVEN OUR FORFATHERS WROTE THE LAW THAT MARRIAGE WAS BETWEEN A MAN AND A WOMAN.
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New Hampshire Towns Rejecting Reconsideration of Marriage Equality
Anonymous, Feb 4, 2010There is nothing hypocritical about loving other people but not agreeing that everything that goes on in this world is right according to your own personal beliefs. It seems that whenever it comes to religion or religious beliefs that it is perfectly alright for the Civil Liberties Union or any other anti moral group to try and take these things away form society but when a majority of people in our society don't believe something is right they are accused of being prejudiced or religious fanatics.
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New Hampshire Towns Rejecting Reconsideration of Marriage Equality
AnIrishBear, Feb 5, 2010In reference to "marriage" being between a man and a woman. This is true...if it is a christian marriage. Civil Marriage, however, is a secular, legal recognition of a partnership. Actually, all "marriage licenses" issued by any state are exactly that...secular, legal recognition of a domestic partnership, whether straight or gay. A religious marriage is outside the secular, legal recognition. One can get a religious marriage WITHOUT a "marriage" license issued by the state...is just is not legally recognized. One can get legally "married" without a religious ceremony. Perhaps our response to this intolerant tactic should change. Instead of arguing with christians over the definition of marriage, just agree with them..."You are right, a CHRISTIAN marriage is between a man and a woman. We don't want a christian marriage, we want a secular, civil "marriage" which is not limited to one set of people dedicated to a hateful god. A Hindu Marriage is not recognized by christians, either...but, they are recognized by the state. That, I think, is the approach we need to take. We need to remind people of other faiths, regardless of relationship orientation, that these bigots do not recognize their "marriages" either, since they were not performed under the "laws" of the christian god. We need supporters...a change in philosophy may go a long way in helping here. We are not the only people the christians are going after.
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New Hampshire Towns Rejecting Reconsideration of Marriage Equality
AnIrishBear, Feb 5, 2010In reference to "marriage" being between a man and a woman. This is true...if it is a christian marriage. Civil Marriage, however, is a secular, legal recognition of a partnership. Actually, all "marriage licenses" issued by any state are exactly that...secular, legal recognition of a domestic partnership, whether straight or gay. A religious marriage is outside the secular, legal recognition. One can get a religious marriage WITHOUT a "marriage" license issued by the state...is just is not legally recognized. One can get legally "married" without a religious ceremony. Perhaps our response to this intolerant tactic should change. Instead of arguing with christians over the definition of marriage, just agree with them..."You are right, a CHRISTIAN marriage is between a man and a woman. We don't want a christian marriage, we want a secular, civil "marriage" which is not limited to one set of people dedicated to a hateful god. A Hindu Marriage is not recognized by christians, either...but, they are recognized by the state. That, I think, is the approach we need to take. We need to remind people of other faiths, regardless of relationship orientation, that these bigots do not recognize their "marriages" either, since they were not performed under the "laws" of the christian god. We need supporters...a change in philosophy may go a long way in helping here. We are not the only people the christians are going after.
New Hampshire Towns Rejecting Reconsideration of Marriage Equality
Anonymous, Feb 2, 2010
Get a life, religious bigots. You're proving that your religion is nothing without it's gay scapegoat. Go tell it to the mountain, freeks!